Agenda item

PETITIONS, DEPUTATIONS AND QUESTIONS

To receive any petitions, deputations and questions received from Members of the Public in accordance with the provisions of Procedure Rule 217.

 

The total time allowed for this item shall be 30 minutes. Petitions, declarations and questions shall be dealt with in the order in which they are received. Questions may also be submitted at short notice by giving a written copy to the Committee Administrator 15 minutes before the start of the meeting.

 

The total time allowed for questions at short notice is 15 minutes of the total time for 30 minutes. Any petitions, deputations and questions that have been submitted with prior formal notice will take precedence over questions submitted at short notice. Any questions that are not considered within the time limit shall receive a written response after the meeting and be the subject of a report to the next meeting.

Minutes:

6 questions had been received from Members of the public. Members had received the full text prior to the meeting:

 

1.    Mr Neil Newton

 

“The Memorandum of Understanding, with its reference to a preference for a housing development of between 1500 and 3000 houses, was signed before the wider public, or indeed some councillors became aware of it. I can find no public record of Cabinet or Council discussion, which could have allowed wider debate or indeed a call in by this panel. Given that a modern housing estate with a population twice the size of Uppingham would likely cause some public disquiet to put it mildly, why such secrecy and what advice was taken and from whom about the possible range of alternative responses to the closure of the Barracks?”

 

Answer

 

The Chair invited the Leader of the Council Mr O Hemsley to respond to the question. The response is shown below.

 

“The MOU was signed by RCC (CEO) and MOD in September 2017. The MOU is a non-legally binding document and the RCC constitution allows for this to be signed by the CEO.

 

Prior to the MOU being signed the following had happened working back from November 2016:

 

Meeting / Event

Public / Not

Public

7/12/16 Meeting RCC CEO and EWPC and NLPC – advised of

RCC working with MOD on base closure

Not Public

30/3/17 Meeting RCC CEO and EWPC and NLPC – advised of

continued RCC working with MOD on base closure

Not Public

10/4/17 RCC All member briefing on St George’s

Members advised RCC in “active discussions with MOD about a

Public/Public Partnership and that a Draft MOU being prepared

Not Public

18/4/17 Cabinet approved OPE report – advised of the on-going

dialog with MOD about the future of St George’s

Public

22/5/17 meeting with EWPC and NL PC advising of continuing

progress

Not Public

17/7/17 Parish Council Forum – Presentation by RCC all advised

active discussions with MOD about a Public/Public Partnership

and that a Draft MOU being prepared

EW 3 Representatives

NL Not represented

Manton and Empingham not represented

Minutes available

 

Post signing of the MOU

 

It is available on our web site and has been since February 2018. Initially elements were redacted. This included:

 

·      The ‘working name for the potential new community’ – since dropped

·      The MOD model for the Land Sale Delivery Partner

 

Both have since been un-redacted and the MOU has been for some months been freely available on our web site.

 

So no secrecy – we made it clear that we were working with MOD, made it clear we were developing a MOU and we made it publicly available on our web site in February 2018.

 

The St George’s project Board including Leader, Deputy and Cllr Waller as Ward Member signed off the MOU and commented at its meeting in August 2017 “a job well done”.

 

Alternative uses

 

·      Previous to the closure announcement the Council’s position was clear a preference for on-going MOD use

·      Post closure the MOD position was clear - to maximise the value from the site and contribute to an MOD target to deliver 55,000 homes”

 

Supplementary Question

 

“Why was it not for the wider Council and public to discuss whether it was in the interest of Rutland?”

 

Mr Hemsley responded:

 

            “The Council tried to be transparent and keep everyone informed”

 

2.    Mr Richard Camp

 

“Given the public pronouncements by the Leader that the St George’s Infrastructure will be in place before development begins, can he clarify exactly what this infrastructure will be?”

 

Answer

 

The Chair invited the Leader of the Council Mr O Hemsley to respond to the question.

 

 

“As with any major development infrastructure will be required to support and mitigate against the impact of growth. This will include for example:

 

·      Highways improvements

·      Health provision

·      Schools

·      Utility (electricity, gas, water, telecoms and data) upgrades and reinforcement

 

As part of the evolving master plan the specific infrastructure will emerge in more detail over the next few weeks and months.

 

One of the advantages of the public / public partnership is that we are working with MOD to develop within the master plan an infrastructure delivery plan. In addition it means that we are able to bid to the Housing Infrastructure Fund for funding to support the delivery of infrastructure and in advance of the housing development. It is this that gives me confidence to say that we are working hard to ensure that the infrastructure does come first.

 

We have encouraged through the Advisory Board PC’s to support the emerging picture of what infrastructure will be including a workshops on Community Facilities and at the stakeholder launch as far back as February and May 2017. In relation to comments made about infrastructure during consultation I believe we have responded to these as you are about to hear.

 

If we do not get HIF – in common with any development of this scale as Planning Authority a robust infrastructure delivery plan will remain a requirement.”

 

            Supplementary Question

 

“The Government stipulates that the Housing Infrastructure Fund must have support from the public and all bids must be committed by 2021, how can a bid for housing fund be succeeded if submitted by end of the year?

 

Mr Hemsley responded:

 

“It would need the support of the surrounding area not just the parish council. The commitment date had now moved to 2023.”

 

3.    Mr Steve Reynolds

 

“I have been on the project teams for three company relocations at a senior level, including Project Leader and Managing Director of a relocating company so I am well aware of the difficulties and what it take to attract jobs to an area. Therefore can I ask if any analysis has been undertaken to substantiate the claim that up to 2700 jobs ie one job per household, as stated in the consultation document, can be provided on the St George's site?”

 

Answer

 

The Chair invited Mr Steve Pearce from RegenCo to respond to the question.

 

“Yes, the following analysis has been undertaken:

 

1. Trends in working patterns – presently approximately 16% of the workforce work from home or ‘remotely’ (i.e. not from a permanent physical base). This percentage is expected to grow significantly over future decades. We will install high-speed fibre broadband to all homes and facilitate the development of serviced workspaces to respond to this trend.

 

2. Needs of existing Rutland employers – RCC has met with major local employers and discussed with them their needs (affordable housing to enable them to attract local employees; additional floor space) and will endeavour to meet these within the development.

 

3. Public sector employment – on average 10% of employees in any location work within the public sector – schools, health, council, etc.

 

4. Rutland trends – RCC has had great success with its own employment zones in Oakham and elsewhere. The Council is keen to take the lead with respect to the employment zone at St George’s, including a potential ‘Science Park’ and/or other hi-tech/digital industries.

 

5. Service sector – employment in the UK is increasingly focused on the service sector – finance, insurance, associated industries. Many of these employers are locating their ‘back office functions’ to more affordable locations away from major population centres. St George’s shares many of the characteristics sort.

 

6. Construction jobs – for a development that will continue over 10 years or more a job in construction-related activities can become, in effect, a career. Evidence from our project at Whitehill & Bordon is showing that in liaison with local training providers it is possible to secure work opportunities (in construction and construction-related professional trades) for large numbers of local residents.

 

7. It is too early in the development process to identify specific employers, but I believe this illustrates the analysis that has been undertaken to give us confidence that we will be able to provide 1 job for each new household over the course of the development.”

 

4.    Mr Vic Pheasant

 

“What is the 2017/2018 budget provision, and expenditure to date, in respect of the proposed redevelopment at St George’s Barracks?”

 

Answer

 

The Chair invited Mrs Helen Briggs to answer the question.

 

“There is no budget provision for this project within RCC.

 

For the whole One Public Estate Programme the CEO has delegated access to £100k of funding to support bids for funding. To date £25k of this has been spent levering in £186k OPE funding.

 

Nil expenditure – other than officer time all expenditure to date has been met from Government Funding (One Public Estate) and MOD.

 

Work associated with the Local Plan has been met from within the Local Plan

Budget.

 

Supplementary Question

 

“Was there a transparent bidding process for the MOD funded consultants?”

 

Mrs Briggs responded:

 

RegenCo are a Local Authority company and legislation allows us to contract with another Local Authority in the way we have with RegenCo. The MOD and the One Public Estate (OPE) funding has paid them to date. OPE have been satisfied with the work that has been done so far.

 

5.    Mr Christopher Renner

 

“What analysis has been done by the MOD and RCC as to alternative uses for the site? For example, what receipts might be likely from housing and / or mineral extraction, warehousing, Science Park, solar farm, relocation of the MOD equine centre?”

 

Answer

 

The Chair invited Mr Mark Bennett from the Defence Infrastructure Organisation to answer the question.

 

“Alternative uses have been considered but very early in the discussions it was clear that housing was and remains a key driver for MOD.

 

The MOD have a national target to deliver 55,000 new homes – there is an expectation that the St George’s site will contribute towards this.

 

Relocation of the Equine Centre was considered by MOD and rejected.

 

There is likely to be mineral extraction as the site covers an area of nationally safeguarded minerals. This area have been identified and features in the emerging master plan.

 

Equally 14 hectares of employment land could include a science park. The emerging master plan indicates a preference not for warehousing.

 

The MOD clear preference is for housing to deliver against their national target this would certainly outweigh MOD support for a solar farm.

 

In relation to receipts – this will feature in the viability work which is on-going.”

 

Supplementary Question

 

“How could value for money be demonstrated?”

 

Mr Bennett responded:

 

RegenCo had looked into the viability of the project and early indications suggested that housing development would be the best option.”

 

6.    Mr Les Allen

 

“RCC have a duty to ensure that they do not change the culture, nature and rural character of the county by their proposals at SGB. Can you advise whether they have followed their own procedure in proposing the Master Plan proposal?”

 

Answer

 

The Chair invited the Leader of the Council Mr O Hemsley to respond to the question.

 

“The consultation process is non statutory indeed most developers would not have undertaken such consultation. A good example of how our partnership has ensured that the project has gone beyond the usual requirements. We believe the consultation process was fair and this is supported by the overwhelming response received. I think you will see this evening that we have listened and will continue to listen.”

 

Supplementary Question

 

“In both the draft Master Plan and draft provisions for the local plan it was stated that it was Council’s policy that culture was preserved within the county, why is there a proposal that will dramatically change that?”

 

Mr Hemsley responded:

 

“There is a lot of work to do regarding the heritage of the site and it is too early to give a detailed answer but, we don’t want to change what makes Rutland great”